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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

Actually, I couldn't care less what they add after I've seen Space SD. By the time NSM 2012.1 will be released, we will also see Space Security Design 12.1, which will be ready for prime time (well, 12.2 and 12.3 will be the real deal, but 12.1 looks very promising already). The only thing that really really bugs me about Space is the lack of logging. If anyone is interested in switching from NSM to Space in the future, you better also ask for STRM pricing.
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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

Interesting, I read the latest release notes on Space:
• Lightweight logging: Release Candidate Test, with support for single node 11.4 only.
Disabled by default

This lead me to believe they were going for Space logging.
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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

I had a chat with a product manager and he said they might add some lightweight logging but I shouldn't hold my breath - it's not officially on the roadmap for any 12.x release. He said logging is just too much stress and doesn't scale well if you think of the massive log amount that the SRX is available to produce. They are thinking of integrating with STRM somehow. That "single node" stuff is just odd. Typical Juniper.
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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

Hello Comunity ,

 

It is out.

 

Security Design 12.1 requires Space Platform 12.1

 

I'm on the way to choose of management software between algosec/tufin and junos space . Let's check it out.


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Alexey

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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

Did anyone find the release notes for Security Design 12.1? I didn't....
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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos-space12.1/junos-space-security-design-sub-index.html (it's a bit buried...we're discussing fixing that)

 

Does anyone object if I split this thread to a new discussion? The topic is revolving around Security Design vs NSM (NSM comments can continue on the original thread, but customers might otherwise miss important Security Design discussion)

 

-Keith

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Sounds like a good idea to me...

 

[Automate note: Good, as I had to hijack your response so subsequent replies thread properly :smileywink: ]

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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

Sure, split it off. Makes sense. Thanks for the link to the release notes!
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Re: Want some examples why NSM is a piece of junk?

I need a helping hand getting this installed. I am at home with a Mac OS X machine, with a choice of VMWare Fusion or Parallels Desktop. Neither support OVF file format of the virtual appliance version. I tried VMWare's ovftool to convert it, but that tool is throwing errors at me:

 

Virtual machine has 8192 megabytes of memory, which is outside the range of 4 to 3600 megabytes supported on the host. This may be a general limitation of the host software, or specific to the guest OS selected for the virtual machine.

 My Mac has 32 GB of RAM so it must be the tool.

 

Any thoughts? Could I just use the image version of Space which is designated for USB stick installation on the physical hardware?

 

Thanks

 

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