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JNCIE - path/track comparison

I'm trying to determine if I want to go the ER or the M series path for the JNCI[ASE] certifications and I can't find anything that lists some basic information regarding the major differences between the two. I've read the descriptions of the certs, but they sound very similar.  I'm slightly leaning toward the ER track since there's no 'P' step in the path, but I wanted to check to see if there was some kind of nice chart or table that compared the 2 paths.

 

Thanks.

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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

Hi,

 

It's my understanding that M-series covers IS-IS what isn't the case with ER. On top of that advanced BGP configs like route reflectors and confederiations. That's all I know about it....

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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

Thanks for the response. I was hoping that there would be more information.  I'll probably end up just doing the "easier" route (ie. less certs --> ER path)

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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

Hi,

 

There are actually several differences between the exams.  The JNCIE-M has SP-centric topics, such as MPLS, MPLS VPNs, IGPs including IS-IS, BGP from a SP perspective, etc.  The JNCIE-ER has enterprise-centric topics, VRRP, IPSec, GRE, OSPF, etc.

 

You can check out the differences in objectives here, they're noticeable when you line them up side by side:

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/resources_jnciem.html

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/resources_jncieer.html

 

Since the IE exams follow on from the JNCIA/S/P exams, you can also get some more info on the differences by checking the objectives for the lower exams.

 

Cheers

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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison


berky wrote:

Thanks for the response. I was hoping that there would be more information.  I'll probably end up just doing the "easier" route (ie. less certs --> ER path)


I personally wouldn't say the "easier" route is the one with less certs.  In fact, one of the things I like about the M/T series track is that it is a more natural progression and allows one to gauge their understanding of the topics in an ordered fashion, before moving on to the next higher layer certification.

 

The JNCIP-M exam would be mutually beneficial to those who are pursuing either the JNCIE-M or the JNCIE-ER exam, as the focus on IGPs and BGPs will be infinitely valuable in either of those tracks.

 

The ER track is going to be undergoing some changes in the near future...

Stefan Fouant
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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

Would be the ER track same as M track, come out with JNCIP-ER as pre-requirement for JNCIE-ER?

any news on it?

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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

Hello All,

 

    The ER track is focused on the challenges associated with an enterprise, meaning a large company who isn't an ISP. The M-series track is based on testing the tasks relevant to an ISP. You won't cover ISIS in the ER track as it is today, you also won't need to worry about things like Layer 3/2 VPNs, MPLS, Ibgp confederations etc. Those things are reserved for the ISP side (M-series). The ER track focuses more on redundancy, tunneling, encryption, complex nat and stateful firewalls and site to site routing. Both tracks are very challenging but the certifications yield a tremendous amount of respect in the industry. Basically it depends on where you wish to hang your hat, ISP routing or Enterprise routing.

 

Check out these links for full descriptions of each track:

 

ER

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/er_track.html

 

M&T

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/mt_series_track.html

 

Hope this helps!

 

-Bill Ahlstrom

JNTCP

Exam Developer / Proctor

JNCIE-M #343

JNCIE-ER #37

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Mister_Bill
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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

We will be changing the tracks between now and the end of 2010. Once we do all 3 Junos related tracks will line up symetrically, with the same exam levels for all 3 tracks.

 

-Bill Ahlstrom

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Mister_Bill
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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

Fewer certs, yes. Easier...I wouldn't be so sure. I found the ER track more difficult, partially because I came from a service provider background.

 

-Bill Ahlstrom

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Re: JNCIE - path/track comparison

So are you saying that each track will have an A, S, P, and IE ??

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