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write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

 

is it worth writing the JNCIP-M exam in the coming months or should one wait for the new LAB to come out for JNCIP-SP exam which would include MX switching.

would my current JNCIS-M be valid for writing JNCIP-SP or would i need to write the JNCIS-SP prometric exam ?

 

if i clear the JNCIP-M now , would that be valid for the JNCIE-SP LAB exam or would I need to write the JNCIP-SP ?

 

it would be appreciated if some one from JNTCP could comment on the above as i guess there are many hesitant candidates like me for the lab exams

 

 

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Ditto what azeem said.  Not sure what is able to be shared publically on J-Net at this time, but it would be nice to know a little about the future of current -M tracks and how they will apply to -SP tracks.

 

I just passed the JNCIP-M and have started studying for JNCIE-M.  Hopefully, those efforts will not be in vain when the changes are announced to the -M/-SP track.

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

can you please tell me where i can find the VLab for JNCIP-M/MX.

thanks.

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Thanks for posting your questions.    We definitely recommend that if you have prepared for and are ready to take the exam supporting JNCIP-M (or JNCIE-M) that you continue with that plan.   Once earned, this credential will remain active for two years even as we begin to move to our new framework.  In addition, your JNCIS-M will be valid as a prerequisite for the JNCIP-SP and the JNCIP-M will be valid as prerequisite for the JNCIE-SP.

As you know, we are making changes to the JNCIx-M tracks.  This will start with the release of the JN0-360 exam in August – which will support JNCIS-SP.  The exam supporting JNCIS-M will be discontinued in October.  However, your JNCIS-M credential will remain an active certification until recertification is required.

Additional information on the new JN0-360 exam and the new JNCIx-SP certifications will be posted here in the next two weeks.

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Liz Burns

 

Would like to know as following as i am preparing for JNCIP-M lab now:

 

1) When the JNCIP-M lab exam will be no longer available?

2) Would the JNCIP-SP same syllabus/blueprint same as JNCIP-M?

3) For those has certified as JNCIP-M, do they need to take JNCIP-SP lab to remain certification?

 

i believe all these will be a concern for those who are preparing for JNCIP-M right now.

 

Thanks

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Tankl

 

The JNCIP-SP exam will be available in the first part of 2011.  The JNCIP-M lab exam will retire 60 days after the release of the JNCIP-SP lab exam - so mid year 2011.  The objectives for the new SP track will address much of the same topics covered by the current M series, but reflecting the most current technologies and business issues.

 

Any certification earned in the M series remains valid for a full two years under our standard recertification policies.  Juniper Certified technologists in the M series will be able to re-certify within the M series AS LONG AS THE EXAM REQUIRED FOR RECERTIFICATION IS STILL AVAILABLE.  As we retire the M series exams candidates will take the appropriate SP series exam for recertification.  M series certification will not be automatically changed to the SP credential.  This will require recertification on the SP track.

 

We are currently preparing detailed communications around the changes in the Juniper Networks Certification Program and will be emailing this info out to all Juniper Certified individuals as well as posting on J-Net and the certification websites/portals.  Please look for a direct email and check back here in mid-July.

 

Meanwhile - we are monitoring these discussions and happy to answer any questions!

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Liz Burn,

 

You said  " M series certification will not be automatically changed to the SP credential.  This will require recertification on the SP track".

I would like to know how will JNCIP/E-M holders change to the SP credential ?  

To take the JNCIS-SP exam ?  Or to take the JNCIP/E-SP Lab ?

 

Thanks!

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

As with our current recertification policies, those holding a P/E level certification earned by doing a lab exam can re-certify AT THE SAME LEVEL by taking the highest level WRITTEN exam.  You will not be required to re-certify by taking another lab exam.  So - what does this mean?

If you have a JNCIP-M you recertify by:

  • Up to September 30 - Passing the JN0-304 M-series, Specialist (JNCIS-M) exam (available at Prometric until October 1).  This will re-certify you as a JNCIP-M.  OR
  • After September 30 - Pass a written “re-certification” exam (available late 2010/early 2011).  This will re-certify you as a JNCIP-SP (see additional info below).
  • You can also recertify, and advance your credential, by earning the JNCIE-M or the JNCIE-SP (lab exam available early 2011).

If you have a JNCIE-M you can recertify by:

  • Up to September 30 - Passing the JN0-304 M-series, Specialist (JNCIS-M) exam (available at Prometric until October 1).  This will re-certify you as a JNCIE-M.  OR
  •  After September 30 - Pass a written “re-certification” exam (available late 2010/early 2011).  This will re-certify you as a JNCIE-SP (see additional info below).
  • You can also take the lab exam supporting the JNCIE-SP, when available (early 2011),

PLEASE NOTE:  There will be a period of time, between October 2010 when we retire the exam supporting the JNCIS-M and late 2010/early 2011 when we have the “re-certification” exam written, when those holding the JNCIP-M and the JNCIE-M credential will not have an exam to re-certify on.  For those individuals we will extend your re-certification period to allow enough time to prepare for and pass the written re-certification exam after it is made available.  Details on this new exam will be emailed directly to those impacted and announced on the Juniper Networks Certification Program website when available.

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

One more comment.  Just want to remind all of what I mentioned a few replies above:

 

Once earned, this credential (any M-series certification) will remain active until re-certification is required, even as we retire the supporting exams and move to our new framework.

 

Once earned your credential will provide all the benefits of Juniper Networks Certification until you are required to re-certify.

 

Liz

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Liz,

 

Once JNCIP/E-M holders earned JNCIP/E-SP credential, and the certificate number and certified date on JNCIP/E-SP certificate would be the same as those on M series certificate , or will be assigned new number and date ?

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi ,

 

I have booked my JNCIP-M/T exam on 18Dec, 2010.

Please confirm the validation of this exam and If validation is less than year than It will be difficult for me to recertify from JNCIP-M/T to  JNCIP-SP exam due to my office commitments.

 

So It will looks wastage of time to sit for JNCIP-M/T in this time while certification tracks are going to be changed.

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Toufiq-ur-Rehman,

 

If I understand your question correctly... once you pass your JNCIP-SP, it will be valid for two years (as with all Juniper exams).  There is more info on this earlier in the thread.

 

Good luck on the exam, regards,

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Tougiq-ur-Rehman,

 

Just added - as referenced in other discussions in this thread - that when earned your JNCIP-M certification will be valid for two years from the date earned.  You will not have to recertify on JNCIP-SP until that two year valid period expires.

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi

I have recently passed the JNCIS-M written exam, I'm curious if I can get JNCIE-SP certificate in the following steps:

Step 1: Pass the JNCIP-M lab exam

Step 2: Pass the new JNCIS-SP exam

Step 3: Take the new JNCIE-SP exam

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

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Hi Chen Ming,

 

No, following the steps you mention will not quite work. You can check here - http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/program-changes.html#launch - to see your options for moving forward.

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Thanks JCert. Your information is very helpful, but I still have a tiny question:

 

Regarding to the Juniper certification update policy unveiled in July, to shift to the JNCIP-SP from the current M series, candidates must pass the "Highest level written exam in new Service Provider Track", the written exam could be either JN0-360 or a specialized one, according the comments which Juniper gave:

"The exam will be either the exam supporting the JNCIP-SP certification, if written, or a special recertification written exam. Candidates should review the exam description carefully as they may be tested on functionality not in the legacy exams"

 

If "the exam supporting the JNCIP-SP certification" has represented JN0-360, my thought did work, at least I can own the  JNCIP-SP title.

 

PS: can you leak any information about the "special recertification written exam"? I cannot find any descriptions on that page, such as exam topics, locations and fee.

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Liz,

 

I already have JNCIP-M, and I am now atarting to prepare for my JNCIE-M, is it wise to start now or should I wait for the lab to change.

 

I am not sure when the lab is changing , since Juniper only said that it will change in first half. And also when it changes , how much overlap period will be there.

 

Appreciate if you could let me know. If I have atleast 6 months in hand, then it is worth studying for the present lab.

 

Thanks and regards

Arijit

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Arijit,

 

I suggest you stay with your plan to take the JNCIE-M, as it will be around until at least Q2 2011. 

 

Good luck,

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

Hi Liz:

 

Could you please confirm that   the JNCIP-M  will  be available until June 2011.

 

 

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Re: write lab JNCIP-M now or wait for new exams to come out JNCIP-SP, JNCIE-SP

THe JNCIP-M should be available through the first part of June 2011.  We are still working out the dates for a full transition from the M series certification track to the Service Provider Routing and Switching track.  There will be at least a 60 day overlab between the new SP exam release and EOLing for the legacy M series exams.

 

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